Logic 10

[Danny J Lewis]

Don't panic, we haven't heard anything to suggest it's coming soon but what features would you like to see in Logic 10?

For me i'd like to see some new step programmable modulation capabilities - much like Ableton's clip automation.. tied in to every instrument and effect.. A revamp for the EXS24 with realtime timestretch - much like NI's Kontakt would be nice - particularly for sound design. Desk emulations - let me load up my old Soundcraft Ghost as a desk preset - all EQ and signal path sounding the same - and of course let's have the SSL and all the other favourites in there too! (somehow this last one I feel might be ten years ahead of itself)

[djesi]

My Logic 10 wishing list

1- a much improved time stretch algorithm as it has been using the same since version 4.

2- an accurate waveform display in the arrange page which actually works

3- an Auto pan plug in

4- an instant Mute/solo on the arrange page

5- a more reliable metering

6- a better latency (core audio is still behind DAE in this department)

7- an overall improved interface for EXS24, Ultrabeat, ES2. Think old school interface, big buttons, cool look)

8- better filters all round.

to be continued........

[Empire State]

Autopan. Lets leave tremelo for tremelo and get a proper pan effect.

Instrument GUIs that can be expanded on bigger screens. Getting to the fiddly buttons in ultrabeat is a nightmare when it is small. When you make it bigger though it goes blurry.

Make the 64/32 bit audiobridge crash less often.

Faster load times, I could get a beat going in the time it takes to start up.

Make the arpeggiator easier to use. Why not have an instrument like FM8 with one built in?

Remember project settings between shutdowns. If you colour track headers or make text two lines deep on the arrange page track info, Logic forgets this between boots.

Mainstage is OK, but Live beats it hands down for club work. Apple please take note, Logic users DJ too. We dont want to buy two pieces of software to do our thing.

[Danny J Lewis]

Make the arpeggiator easier to use. Why not have an instrument like FM8 with one built in?

Yeh, or for me i'd prefer proper Midi plugins like Ableton and Cubase - arpeggiator, scale, chord generator etc.. that can put the resulting midi data into the regions in the arrange window.

[Empire State]

Agreed, I suspect they will too. That annoying little company from Germany will teach the behemoth from California a thing or too. If Apple dont listen they will lose custom.

[Andy Clark]

Organizing percussion by type rather than kit (as an alternative) in Ultrabeat/Library would be useful. I seem to spend a lot of time going through the kits to find the right percussion sound. Whether I use Ultabeat/library & my keyboard its consuming and comparison between drums can be tough.

A simple GUI initiated from Ultrabeat that has buttons that populate with percussive sounds based upon a type selection and, flashes the kit name each time a button is pressed would work. Users would be able to make a selection (e.g kick) and run down the buttons pressing them until they find the kick sound they like.

[Shane Collins]

I would really like to see an accurate waveform display in the arrange window and maybe a variety of skins to choose from for plugins

[T Simpson]

I was just getting ready to purchase Logic studio 9 when I remebered this post about Logic 10. I remeber having that bad feeling when I bought vista then a few months later windows 7 came out.

Basiclly I was just looking on some forums and there seem to be rumors that Logic 10 will be released 10-10-2010.

Right now I don't know if I should take the plug and upgrade to logic 9 or wait and see what happens.

[Andy Clark]

It's very easy to become the "eternal waiter" i.e always waiting for the next release before taking the plunge on software/hardware. I would take the plunge, get working with Logic and then upgrade later. I've read many forum posts on Logic 10 and the general consensus is that Apple release major upgrades every 2 years. Logic Pro 9 was released July'09 so using the the 2 year timeframe the next release would be July'11 - but who really knows? At this point its a guessing game.

Once key point is that the longer you wait the longer it will take you to start using Logic.

Andy

[SimonLangford]

I think that for me the most obvious thing would have to be a new synth. I like the layout and features of the ES2 so maybe a simple ES2 II where you could select different oscillators and filters from different synths. So you could, for example, have a Minimoog Oscillator in Osc. 1, an ARP-2600 Oscillator in OSC. 2 and a Juno Oscillator in Osc. 3. The same would apply for filters...perhaps a Minimoog in 1 and a TB-303 in 2. I guess you could even extend this to the envelopes because I know that some analogue synth envelopes were "quicker" than others and this DID have an impact on some of the sounds that were created with them...so I think even that would be a worthwhile feature.

There are certainly things about Logic that drive me crazy too in terms of features and workflow. Lately I keep getting "insufficient RAM" messages and that NEEDS to be sorted out. Also, when "freezing" or doing an offline bounce only one of my eight cores is being used according to the CPU meter. It would be nice if Logic could take advantage of Open CL as well to be able to throw in a powerful graphics card or two in order to be able to extend the useful life of any Mac or to simply offer more power if you really needed it on a newer machine.

I think that the Channel EQ should be updated to offer different "models" in the way that the compressor has been...just different EQ curves and things like that...not necessarily the full slew of subtleties and non-linearities that some of the well known modelled EQs and compressors say they have.

Also, a "Remove all unused plugins" command would be nice. Any that are bypassed (and don't have automation to un-bypass them during the song) would be removed with one command rather than having to do them all one by one. I am sure I am not the only person that experiments with different plugins while working on a sound and doesn't immediately remove the ones that aren't in use!

A "Convert all active audio regions to new files" command would be good. Often I will be working on a remix where I have a multitrack vocal and, on some of the tracks, there is a 6-7 minutes long WAV file with only a few vocals in different places. I would like the option to be able to cut the file either side of the parts that I want to keep, delete the rest and then have a command which converts those to new audio files (individually) and keeps them in the same place. Why? Because my song backups are getting bigger and bigger and if I could convert that 6-7 minute (90-105MB at 24/44.1) file into two smaller files of, say, a couple of MB each and then only have to save those in the "consolidated" project that would save a lot of backup time and hard drive space.

Oh, another thing, at the moment you can move individual tracks up and down in the arrange window and re-order the tracks...I would like to be able to do that with multiple tracks at once...grab four adjacent tracks for example and move them all to the top of the arrange page in one go.

I agree with some of the others here about having a better waveform display in the arrange window and I would also love to have some kind of "elastic pitch" feature for audio files in the same way that ProTools has.

I would like a "bounce" button (like you have on any master outputs) on each channel and on each bus as well. I know you can "bounce in place" anyway with each track...but a bounce button on each track/bus/output with the facility to select multiple ones at once (perhaps hold down "Ctrl" and click or something like that) and then bounce ONLY those ones would be great!! At the moment you have the option of "bounce in place" (for a single track) or bouncing the master outs...or...exporting all tracks (which isn't even the same as "bouncing") which really isn't enough of an option.

I think that's enough for now

[Cole Gould]

Definately a better SubBass...

[Sean_Cormac]

Sub Bass definitely and IMO a new Arpeggio set-up is absolutely necessary.

[logicguru]

Yeh, or for me i'd prefer proper Midi plugins like Ableton and Cubase - arpeggiator, scale, chord generator etc.. that can put the resulting midi data into the regions in the arrange window.

Agreed. It is possible to record the descrete notes generated by Logic's arpeggiator or chord memoriser, delay line, etc.

This involves that scary place called the environment

If you insert the chord memoriser (or similar) between the 'physical input' and the sequencer input then when you record you will get all the individual arpeggiated notes in your recorded MIDI region.

You can copy environment objects from one environment layer to another by doing the following. Select the environment object you need to copy. While holding the option key - select the environment layer drop-down menu on the left and select the layer you need to copy to, e.g 'click and ports' Let go of the mouse before letting go of the option key (like a hill start in a car!)

Best regards
Peter Dudley (Apple Certified Trainer)

[david murray]

i would quite like to see a built in button which turns of automation on every track with one click and also one that you can choose the automation you want on or of

[Kyle R]

My number one request is that I would like to be able to bypass all plugins and sends on a channel strip with one click - similar to option+clicking a single plugin to bypass it. That would really help in A/B testing the processing on a channel. I know it can be done in the environment, but I figure if it can be done there, it can be done with one click.