How good is it to do it and how would you do it in terms of EQ? do you use the same EQs in all layers or do you have to make changes in every layered sound.
i.e. I have a bass and I layered it 4 times with the same sound and same instrument, would that be a correct layering technique to use, or do I have to change instrument source, such as using the ES M for example and then use the ES 2 but with the same MIDI melody and do I eq them differently?
Would that give me a stronger Bass? I'm asking this because I recently saw that Armin van Buuren does it a lot, and he states that the main purpose for it, is to get a big sound. When I listened to his sound in solo mode, I noticed that it has the same EQ settings. The problem is that you can't see his Logic session as it's only a video explaining a few things he does when producing a track.
By the way, he works with Logic as well...good to know!
Thnx for all your help!
Layering?
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Re: Layering?
by Sam Marriott » Tue, 11 Jan 2011, 14:53
Layering of sounds, when done effectively, does indeed give a bigger or "fatter" sound. The number one pitfall to avoid when using this technique is the issue of phasing. ie. two waveforms cancelling each other out over a duration of time as the polarities of the wave pull in opposite directions to each other.
Phasing will not give you your desired effect, the layers will sound thin and you will loose the extra power that you are aiming to achieve.
It´s nice to layer up two different synths like in your example, as those sounds will contain different harmonics from one another that clash in a unique way when played in unison. That clash, or fighting of varying harmonics adds an interesting energy to the sound and varies from sound to sound and can be fine tuned depending on how you EQ the different sounds.
Most commonly, the sounds will be EQ´d differently in order to enhance or bring out desired elements in each sound or to avoid unwanted clashes, particularly in the bottom end.
Your most important tools here are EQ and sample delay. By delaying one of the tracks by a few milliseconds you can get the layered sounds in or out of phase with each other, so experiment until you find the correct timing that gives the most efficient punch!
Phasing will not give you your desired effect, the layers will sound thin and you will loose the extra power that you are aiming to achieve.
It´s nice to layer up two different synths like in your example, as those sounds will contain different harmonics from one another that clash in a unique way when played in unison. That clash, or fighting of varying harmonics adds an interesting energy to the sound and varies from sound to sound and can be fine tuned depending on how you EQ the different sounds.
Most commonly, the sounds will be EQ´d differently in order to enhance or bring out desired elements in each sound or to avoid unwanted clashes, particularly in the bottom end.
Your most important tools here are EQ and sample delay. By delaying one of the tracks by a few milliseconds you can get the layered sounds in or out of phase with each other, so experiment until you find the correct timing that gives the most efficient punch!
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Re: Layering?
by Chereco » Tue, 18 Jan 2011, 18:42
Great reply, thnx for all your help Sam.
I'll keep working on them!
I'll keep working on them!
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